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Carrom in Ldn & Sth East
080521
Hello David, I got your name from Mr Bharat Katwa and also have seen your name from this site. I am very much interested in playing carrom. I have played a lot in India, but have not played for last 1 year after coming to UK. I live in Hemel Hempstead, do you know of a club near my place? It would be great if you could suggest one. Thanks & regards, Sampath Swamy
080525(2) reply to 080521
Hi Sampath, Sorry to say there are no carrom clubs that I know of in the Hemel Hempstead area. Support for carrom clubs have reached an all time low and none of the UKCA clubs operate any more. I am currently considering closing down the UKCA website. As an alternative try accessing www.carromshop.com you may be able to join a club there. I've also passed on your email to the guy that runs CAUK. Hope you find a regular venue. Cheers (David)

080516
Dear David,  I was looking through you great web site and spotted on the bulletin board section that there was a player living in the Southampton area that was looking for other players. There was no date attached to this information request but I am assuming it was fairly recent. I am a novice at this game, although having played with others in the distant past, I would be interested in starting to play again. Is it possible  for you to forward my email address/contact details to him on my behalf as there is no way I can do this via your site and he is not listed in your main contact playing list. Most people I now know are not really interested in giving this game a go so it could be good to get something going again. My details are - xxxxxx I am not worried too much who sees this information, but would prefer all the contact details to only go to specific interested people and not put on general display. Looking forward to hearing from you. Regards, (Michael)
080525(1) reply to 080516
Hi Michael, Unfortunately, enthusiasm and support for this game is dwindling through the UKCA. All the UKCA carrom clubs have closed and I'm considering closing down the UKCA website. I've cc'd this email to the carrom player living in Southampton so that the two of you can make contact. Cheers (David)

080108
Good morning Mr. McKertich and Mr. Katwa, I am writing to you from USA. After almost 5 years of gap, my wife and I will be re-visiting my cousin Mayur who lives in Mill Hill (NW7 3BH) area. We will be there from 9:00 AM, Feb. 6th to 9:00 AM, Feb. 12th. In the afternoon of Feb. 12th, we fly to meet up with other members of the US team who will partake in the WCC events in Cannes. However, I will be participating ONLY in the Krishan Sharma Open for one day on Feb. 15th. After missing it out for 28 years of living in the USA, I finally discovered carrom playing here in 2004. Now, my hunger to play carrom compells me to find fellow carrom family members wherever I travel. Practicing occassionally in the last four years has helped me improve my game up to a level of.... slighly above average - as per US standards. I will appreciate very much if you can give me names and contact info of some experienced carrom players within 100-150 miles radius of London. I see that Mr. Katwa is not too far from where Mayur lives. Moreover, if possible, I would love to play with some members of UK team who may be going to Cannes. Since I have been in the UK many times, I can free up myself to play carrom there, practically, at any/every available opportunity. I don't mind 2-3 hours of travelling --each way-- for playing as many hours of carrom. More is merrier, of course (overnight sessions, with occassional hot tea, are the best :-)). I am quite familiar with the tube and other railway/coach systems in England. My contact there will be my cousin's phone numbers, which are: Residential #: 0208 959-3983 Mobile #: 0774 555-9476 Thank you very much, in anticipation of your kind help -- for the love of carrom :-), Atul Kharecha Cell: (610) 393-3672 Res: (610) 258-5760
080108(2) reply to 080108 Hello Atul Nice to hear from a fellow-finger-clicker! You have no doubt seen our website which gives a lot of details of our style of play. The main differences are that we play forwards only i.e. no back-shots or thumb shots are allowed and also we play on polished boards not powdered boards. The UK Carrom Assn is now largely dormant except that I organize an annual tournament (deemed the national championship) at Wembley in October/November each year. I would have been happy to give you a few rounds of carrom during February but I am afraid I am on holidays in India at that time. Good luck. (Bharat Katwa)
080109 reply to 080108 Hi Atul, Thanks for your email. As per Bharat's reply you can see we, at UKCA, play a slightly different style and follow different rules but that doesn't mean we avoid entering tournaments organised by other associations. However, I'm not sure if any of the UKCA players will be entering the WCC events in Cannes. I've put your message, Bharat's reply and this reply on our Bulletin Board in the hope that someone will contact you for a game whilst you are in the UK. I'm not in favour of sending out email addresses of carrom players so I've also bcc'd some carrom players with this email. If they are interested they will contact you. Cheers (David)

070102 Hi David, i came across this website a while ago, but have been looking for carrom leagues/clubs ever since an extended trip to India (10 years ago now!) I live in Southampton, and would love to play other people. Over the years i have got various friends interested playing (fleetingly) but want to play others who are more accomplished. If you get any more interest in the Hants area then maybe I can look into setting up a local group, great site btw regards (Keith)
070104 reply to 070102 Hi Keith, If you send me your details I'll put you on the carrom register, this may generate some contacts in your area. Cheers (David)


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Carrom in the East
070609
"I went to an exhibition at Alexander Palace about 9 years ago and saw Carrom for the first time. I had a demonstration and played a game and was immediately hooked. Within a year I bought a Carrom board from Karum and my fascination with the game has continued to the present day. In fact, the more I'm able to play it the stronger my addiction has become. Unfortunately there is no one in my area who seems to know how to play it and I have to depend on visits from family members to get a game going. I'm a retired headteacher and a member of the local U3A. I run a Mah-jong group every Thursday but would love to set up a similar, regular Carrom session - not necessarily with someone from the U3A. Is there anyone in the North Norfolk region who would like to play on a regular basis. If there is they can contact me on 01263761566 or e-mail me at trevdenniss@tiscali.co.uk"
070612 reply to 070609
Hi Trevor, Even though you are retired, you must have a lot of contacts. Have you considered coaching youngsters in playing the game. Cheers (David)

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Carrom in The North
070802
Hi David, I live in newcastle and I was wondering if you could give me advice on opening up a carom club. I have not done much planning yet. I am applying for funding and have got a support worker from a a voluntary organisation and it is very likely that I will be getting around £1000 of funding. I will be locating in a community venue.
Target beneficiaries will be:
young people aged 11-25
Black and Minority Ethnic Groups
Refugees/Asylum Seekers
The club will be setup as a voluntary organisation aiming to help the local community. Could you send me any information on setting up a club and how you have setup tournaments in the past. Any help on the matter will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, (Monju Meah)

070803 reply to 070802
Hi Monju, For a carrom club to be well supported you need -
1. Good carrom boards
2. Knowledge of the rules
3. A few experienced players
4. An accessible venue that is not totally isolated
5. Means of attracting and retaining new players
6. Regular club sessions
You are fortunate in having some funding, a support worker and a venue at your disposal. Most clubs start up with a group of players bringing their own boards and persuading a pub landlord to use their premises.
1. Good carrom boards. This is a must. There are some cheap boards around (about £25) that start to warp making the carrom pieces travel in the direction they were not intended to. Use some of your funding to obtain about four decent boards (about £100 each). There are different types of boards available. Those that require a surface powder and those that are highly polished and don't require any powder. The powder less ones are more expensive (about £300). Be also aware of the type of pockets. Tournament boards have pockets that are inwardly rounded. You will need these if you are going to run major tournaments or want to get your players used to them if you want them to compete in tournaments. The boards and pieces need to be stored securely in a dry environment and maintained on a regular basis. Have a look at the Bulletin Board messages under 'Carrom Equipment'.
2. Knowledge of the rules. You need a rule book so that everyone knows what rules to follow. What rules does your club intend to follow? There are several different organisations with their own set of rules. I know of at least three. The main differences being the use of backshots i.e. striking directly the pieces that are on or behind the players striking lines. The site supports the UK Carrom Association rules. I can provide you with booklets of these rules at £2.50 a booklet. Have a look at the similarities/differences with the other organisations.
3. A few experienced players. It is important that you have experienced players from whom new players can learn. Although new players don't want to be bombarded with all the rules, they need to be aware of those things that they should not be doing. Obviously allowances have to be made in the early stages of learning otherwise the new players may consider this game to be too complicated to master.
4. An accessible venue that is not totally isolated. Because you are using a community venue it should be easy to get to and not down the beaten track. Some of your funding may be towards the venue. However, making a token charge for making use of the games facilities is not a bad thing. Most players won't object to being charged the equivalent of the price of a pint. The money collected could also be used for competition prizes. Don't have your club sessions behind closed doors. The game needs exposure to non players. Secure storage facilities for the boards at the venue will also be very useful rather than having to transport the boards before and after every session.
5. Means of attracting and retaining new players. Without the influx of new players and the retention of existing players the club will just die. The club sessions need to be well publicised. New players must feel that they are welcome, shown how to improve and enjoy themselves during the club sessions. Involvement is the key. Don't try and run the club on your own. Get a minimum of three or four others to help you. Perhaps you can rotate the help provided. Try to avoid cliques being formed.
6. Regular club sessions. Most clubs tend to have sessions once a month. If you have it once a week then players know that if they don't turn up this week they can always catch a session the following week. But if it's just once a month then they know that they will have to wait another whole month before they can get a game. All players like to be competitive and prove they are better than the next person. However, don't try to start running leagues as you will need the commitment of every player to turn up at every club session. Start with a simple 'ladder'. Each winner is placed above the person they beat. Eventually you will have a list of players in order of ability. By all means have a club tournament periodically. This needs organising to run efficiently. Most tournaments are run under the Swiss System. Under this system if there are 32 or less entrants every entrant will get to play 5 games even though they lose every one of their games.
Other advice can be gleaned from messages under 'London & the South East'.
Let me know how you get on. Cheers (David)
070803(2) reply to 070803 Hi David, This is some fantastic stuff you have sent me. I am really excited about opening up a carrom club where I live. I have a brilliant market. The 5 streets next to the venue I am setting up in (which is free by the way) are 80% Bengali and Pakistani. But I have some friends from Burma and Sudan who say that they have played carom before and want to join the club when it is open. I want to promote the club and the game of carrom across all nationalities and all ages. I attended a few meetings today with some community groups and they pledged their support if the club was to open. Could get up to £300 sponsorship (fingers crossed) from these organisations plus free promotion through their offices, email networks, newsletters, company magazines and their events. It's looking really good. We are going to write up a constitution, open a bank account and draw up some budgeted accounts. I have 3 other guys helping me and will form the management committee. We are gonna be using powdered boards and will most liklely get about 5 or 6 boards, roughly £60 each. I am hoping to promote at the Newcastle mela and other similar events in Newcastle. I can also use these opportunities to raise some funds. e.g. a mini tournament, or get 3 shots in and win £10 - 50p a go. Thanks David, you have been a big help. I'll be in touch. (Monj)
070804 reply to 070803(2) Hi Monj, With most of your players coming from different parts of the world, make sure all of you play to one set of rules. I was born and brought up in Burma and played carrom at school to a different set of rules e.g. the Queen was not covered but had to be pocketed on the last shot on a rebound. Cheers (David)

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Carrom in Wales/South West

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Carrom in Scotland

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Carrom Equipment
070215
Hi David I just read a message saying that polished Carrom boards are no longer sold commercially in the UK. As far as I know they are sold through Compendia in Greenwich Market (Tel: 020 8293 6616) with best wishes (Geoff)

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Rankings

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Rules

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Site Comments
070102
Great site (Keith, Southampton)

061107 Hi, Fantastic site! There's nothing else like it around (Will)

050328 Hi David: Saw your site while visiting my brother on Exmoor - very nice. (Alan Martin) Visiting Canadian player.

020928
Hi David, thanks very much for your great site. (Karen) Note message continued under Carrom Boards/Powder.

020913(1)
David, may I suggest that the additional details (or new details) which are included in the website updates be highlighted with some other colour than the present red - it blends with the background brown and hardly visible with the naked eye. (Bharat)
020913(2) reply to 020913(1)
Bharat, thanks for pointing out the viewing problem. It doesn't show up as a problem on my monitor.
When I first designed the website what I was trying to achieve was a view of the screen that looked like a carrom board i.e. a dark wood coloured frame around the outside and a light wood colour background. However, I soon realised that viewers want to see good content and not flashy gizmos and wasted space. This is why the dark frame background never got passed the drawing board and the dark strip down the left is all that remains.
I also realised that not all computers are to the same specification level and colours have to be chosen from a narrow band. That is why I couldn't use a light wood with a wood grain effect. I also followed the unwritten standard colours that exist when displaying data. Black for normal text, blue for unused links and red for used links. That is why I didn't notice the problem as the links were blue but after use they changed to red.
Anyway getting back to your point. To change all the links colour would be a major effort. So what I have done is change the background colour of where the biggest problems are i.e. the initial splash page which highlights the latest changes to the website, and the column of names/email addresses on the Directory of Players.
I wish more viewers were as observant as you and highlight problems or suggestions for improvements. Cheers (David)

020510
Well done with carrom.org.uk ... how did you draw the big board on the homepage ? (Marco Herbst)
020512 reply to 020510
The big board on our splash page was drawn using Fireworks from Macromedia. It wasn't intended to but has now become our logo. The board used in the Flash (Macromedia) animation was an earlier version. The large carrom pieces, with text and links to the rest of the site, shown on the home page was drawn using Fireworks and so were the navigation buttons down the left hand frame. (David)

010813
Paula and I were just browsing the web site and both enjoyed it thoroughly. Glad to see things are still alive with fresh names and venues. Best of luck for your continuing success. (Ram & Paula)
010814 reply
to 010813 Good to hear from you. Its not the same without the two of you. Nobody wants to get involved anymore. (David)

010722(1)
Great web site!!!! (Guy Moreton)

010401 Hi David, have a look at http://members.tripod.de/CFBGL. Greetings (Jörg)
010404 reply to 010401 Hi
Jörg, I had a look at your site but, unfortunately, I don't know enough German to appreciate the information on your site. Thanks for providing a link to this site, I've set up a link to your site. Cheers (David)
010405 Hi David, thanks for your answer. Maybe I can play Carrom on Monday, 09 April, at Chiddingly during my holiday. Nice greetings from Germany. Cheers Jörg

000503 Great web site. I'll update my links as soon as I can. Are any of you joining us for the next Eurocup in Italy? I used to enjoy receiving your club's magazine is it still going? Regards to all, (Elisa Martinelli)
000504 Reply to 000503
Yes we will still have a magazine which will be called 'The Pocket'. An Acrobat Reader version is attached which I hope you can access. Cheers (David)

000501 Nice Homepage you made. I will put a link on my carrom site… (Carlito Bollin)

000429 Congratulations on the public unveiling of an exceptionally good site. It is difficult to believe it is your first. Well done… (Bottleneck)

000428 Looks really great. You're an expert… (David Cunliffe)

000419 Congratulations on the birth of a new site. I have only just looked at the website, and I am very impressed. You have clearly put a lot of effort into the production and it will act as an excellent shop-window for UKCA… (Trevor Munns)

000406 New site is really good. Well done… (Ram Chatlani)

000405(1) It looks great! Although, I would have thought that you might have placed some carrom music and some animation oh well I guess it can't have it all...... Just kidding looks good all of the URL's work fine, did you generate the graphics?? … (Mark Hetherington)

000405(2) Now had a longer look at the website and it looks great. Keep up the good work. (Peter Sweeney)

000404 Congratulations! The set-up is excellent with all useful links to other information. Well done David! (Bharat Katwa)
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Contacts. If you have any questions you would like answered then please do contact any of the UKCA committee members or local club organisers.

Chairman Stephen Daws Stephen
Membership Secretary Terry Moldrich 27 Hornchurch Hill, Whyteleafe, Surrey CR3 0DA
'The Pocket' Newsletter Trevor Munns Trevor
Webmaster David McKertich David
Croydon CC Tim Kirkby Tim
Sussex CC Mick Aldridge Mick
Thames Valley CC Trevor Munns Trevor
Wembley CC Bharat Katwa Bharat

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